9/3/2023 0 Comments Livestation downwindowsI just tried sending him an email via this forum, I'll repost if I can get in contactĪlso, check out these two threads (neither actually shows code though): I'd be interested in seeing his sample myself. This guy says he used the Flash control (it is an ActiveX also and normally already installed on the users system) via JavaScript to act like a socket for Silverlight: >How on Earth do you communicate with ActiveX Controls through Silverlight? Yes, one way to do the P2P socket work would be in a custom helper ActiveX control run "side-by-side" with the Silverlight control (which is itself an ActiveX control) inside the Internet Explorer process. The LiveStation demo video hosted on MSN gets played back via the There's at least one humorous thing here. Of course, MS hasn't said anything about P2P specifically. We also know that Scott Guthrie has said that bothĬross-domain are coming, which would presumably be all that is needed for built-in cross-platform support of P2P directly in Silverlight. Into the 4 minute demo video he says they intend to target mobile devices via Silverlight. Then they must do some tricks to feed that video stream into the current plain-Jane P2P-incapable Silverlight control.Īlthough I suppose that kind of hosting strategy could be continued in the years to come, my guess is that they are just using this as a stop-gap until Silverlight directly supports the sockets and cross-domain-ability needed for P2P. Since their little Windows hosting EXE is running in full trust it can be responsible for the socket based P2P work. But the main thing SL brings to the table today, as you indicated, is the world-class video playing ability. Then that "little IE" hosts their one Silverlight app to create the UI. MSHTML (the main HTML component of IE) directly or MSHTML inside a So apparently they are using a little standalone, full-trust Win32 EXE as a "host" for either Is not too good for the cross-platform aspect though." Transform Silverlight into a desktop runtime. live TV in a desktop application.ĭesktop and Silverlight? Yes, the app we say So why their stated requirement that users It's clear from this demo video that LiveStation isn't running the Silverlight control inside IE "proper": The rest is likely either a separate client,Īfter a second look at their site and a little more searching it looks you're right about the "separate client". >I'd say they're using Silverlight only for the media player The potential for selling server-side addons like voice-mail-in-the-cloud would be one way to "monetize" it.Ĭome see my Silverlight Debugging presentation at: I can imagine a really good VOIP soft-phone running on Silverlight. Adobe says they are working on a true P2P VOIP solution: Another "sleeping giant" application based on P2P is VOIP. In the long run I think MS will have to add built-in, cross platform P2P support to SL. That implies they may have temporarily kludged up something like a little helper ActiveXĬontrol (Windows and IE only) to do the P2P work in concert with their player's main SL code. To their trial currently only works on Windows with Internet Explorer. That and a lack of support for simple sockets mean there is currently no stock way of doing P2P on SL that I know of. So how are they doing it on Silverlight? As others have pointed out, by design, for security SL prevents cross-domain access. Actually making it work and work well is going to be challenging, as some of these commenters at the Reg point out: In fact that is the central "leverage point" of their "value proposition" (you don't have to funnel everything throughĮxpensive central servers). Do you have a trial copy yourself?Īccording to their site ( ) this is true P2P. Wow, LiveStation sounds like an interesting product with big potential, at least long term.
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